The Peavey Ultra Mod Thread

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The Peavey Ultra Mod Thread

Post by NoiseZone » Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:43 am

Hi Folks.
I´ve started this thread for a better overview about some useful mods out there.
My Peavey Ultra is still stock but from now it´s the guinea pig of mods :)
I bought it new (in 1997), and everything works fine, loaded with new standard JJ preamp tubes and a pair of TAD 6l6str.
It´s a great amp, without a doubt, nice clean, nice crunch, nice heavy, nice reverb, so why mod this thing ?
"I would called it a personal fine tuning"

Easy Mods:
Try different speakers or cabs with the amp and u will hear the biggest difference of all mods coming up underneath.
I tried many different cabs with different speakers and the Ultra always sounds differently.
Actually i play it with an Eminence V12 speaker, nice versatile, good for crunch and metal tones.
Tubes....there are many posts here about Ultra tubes, read it.

CR1 CR2 Mod:
These diodes are in many Peavey preamps as a "noise reduction" on higher gain settings.
A bit mystical and controversial mod, some people say the diodes also clip, some people say they don't clip.
These diodes are only activated in the signal path when the gain boost switches (crunch/lead) are enable.
It´s a noise reduction and it works very good on the high gain settings.
You can make it switchable (isolated switch) if you want.
There is a tiny bit sound and dynamic difference between diodes on/off, more noise without the diodes, but if u roll your guitar volume down to clean :? there is more dynamic and no sound cut without CR1/CR2 !
It´s up to you...i leave it switchable.
Here is the CR1/CR2 Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWwTeH1w0oo

Two Crunch Channel Mod
Changing VR7 1M log (Ultra Gain Pot) to a 50K log pot gives you two Crunch channels.
If you don't need so much gain, the 50k log (Crunch Gain Pot value also) reduce it and
you can finely, precisely regulate the gain.
No effect to the sound except -> loosing the Ultra Channel, getting two Crunch Channels


Anti 80ies Midhonk Mod
1 swapping out the C76 coupling cap after V1b from the (overly shrill) 1nf -> 2.2nf film
2 changing the parallel C75 470pf/R502 470k before V2a to 2.2nf/470k
3 upping the V1b C15 0.47uf EL cathode bypass cap to 1uf film
>tested, verified<
I´ve done this on my Ultra, sounds good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n8lFymOUG4

Expert Add for this Mod
Changed the plate resistors to 100k(R3 and R13 only) This will give less distortion but a rounder gain.
The stock voltage the preamp tubes are seeing is 260v give or take. This is not the best sounding voltage for a preamp like this. 320 or so is much better.
Change R90 and R91 out for 4.7k resistors. This will bring this preamp to life.

NOTE: I think he's referring to the plate voltage feeding the preamps. This will raise the current going through the tubes, and should cause more grid-current-limiting which is what you get when you bias warmer.

>tested and verified<
I´ve done this on my Ultra too, sounds good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n8lFymOUG4


Clean-Channel-Mod
This small mod has made a pretty dramatic change in the clean channel on the units I have done them too, providing that the amp was well maintained & serviced with decent tubes.
1) Ground the bottom end of C15 & raise the cap value 10uf or 22uf (if you put the larger cap in parallel it can be removed pretty easy if you dont care for it.
Also with a little bit of caution you SHOULD not have to remove the board
2) Try putting a 1.9k ohm resistor across R14.
>not tested, not verified<


Bias wazz Mod:
wazz wrote:Ok, getting back with some news. I sort of made up the above tripler circuit (from TripleXXX/JSX) around the existing doubler circuit of my Ultra 60 and it works fine. I am now able to vary the bias voltage towards cooler and hotter settings, ie from -61V (very cold) to -49V (very hot). I finally set to a 40mA cathod current (bias voltage around -53V) and, with 486V measured plate voltage, everything now seems ok.

So to me, the final answer to the question in this topic title is "yes you can".

Cheers.
wazz wrote:Ok here is the final "before/after" circuit. This is kept to a minimum of mods. All was done from the top, cutting and soldering on existing components, without removing the main board. So all together, I only had to change two resistors (the original voltage divider), add one more diode, one more cap and add the trim pot plus the limiting resistor on the right. Hope this helps.
Bias wazz Mod
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Most of this Mods are copied from the internet.

WARNING:
Please note that Amp-Modification are not a beginners project and only for experienced amp builders !
Voltages inside tube amplifiers can exceed 500V and can cause serious damage and can even kill!


OK, post your mods here if u want or pm me.

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Re: The Peavey Ultra Mod Thread

Post by NoiseZone » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:23 am

OK i´ve done these mods above to my ultra 112 (60 watt).
Except the clean channel mod, for me the clean channel sounds good and don´t need a modification.

One easy trick, like the Valveking Input mod is:

Connect your Guitar to the Low Gain Input, bridge High Gain Input with a Stereo Plug Adapter for Headphones like this one:

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Re: The Peavey Ultra Mod Thread

Post by shaff » Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:02 pm

Thank you for the info
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Re: The Peavey Ultra Mod Thread

Post by Stites » Sun Aug 31, 2014 4:58 pm

Good stuff, here! Now do you know of anything to stop one from squealing like mad on the Ultra Channel when you push the gain past 4??? I have a 112 combo variant, and it's done this for awhile now. I just leave it at 4 and alternate between it and Crunch when I want gain.

I have heard a lot of folks say that the Ultra channel gets muddy when the gain is turned way up. Wonder if you could do that "Two Crunch Channels" Mod and use a pot with a value somewhere between 50K and 1M, and have more gain on tap than the Crunch Channel offers without the mud?
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Re: The Peavey Ultra Mod Thread

Post by NoiseZone » Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:57 am

Stites wrote:Good stuff, here! Now do you know of anything to stop one from squealing like mad on the Ultra Channel when you push the gain past 4???
I would check the preamp tubes first, maybe one is bad or microphonic.

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Re: The Peavey Ultra Mod Thread

Post by NoiseZone » Tue Aug 16, 2016 3:27 pm

"The stock voltage the preamp tubes are seeing is 260v give or take. This is not the best sounding voltage for a preamp like this. 320 or so is much better."

I´m back to the original 260 Volt, because it gives me the typical "sharp" defined Peavey distortion i like on this amp.

On 320 Volt it sounds more muffled.

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Re: The Peavey Ultra Mod Thread

Post by shermanpup » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:15 pm

The clean channel mod seems incomplete. If you are grounding the negative side of C15 ,then aren't you grounding both sides of R19 and the connector j106,j126 also, and one side of R18 too. Seems like this would affect the plate voltage of V2 .Deano's original post of how to do this seems incomplete or wrong ?

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Re: The Peavey Ultra Mod Thread

Post by Enzo » Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:08 pm

Grounding the negative side of C15 just puts it permanently in the circuit. All the other resistors you refer to are just ther to keep the cap charged when it is out. They prevent pops when the cap switches out. When it is hard wired, they all become irrelevant. Note that the left end of those resistors ONLY has a path to ground through a bunch of relays.

I don't see how it could affect V2 plate voltages, there is no connection.

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Re: The Peavey Ultra Mod Thread

Post by jmricco » Sat Oct 07, 2017 8:51 pm

Stites wrote:
Sun Aug 31, 2014 4:58 pm
Good stuff, here! Now do you know of anything to stop one from squealing like mad on the Ultra Channel when you push the gain past 4??? I have a 112 combo variant, and it's done this for awhile now. I just leave it at 4 and alternate between it and Crunch when I want gain.

I have heard a lot of folks say that the Ultra channel gets muddy when the gain is turned way up. Wonder if you could do that "Two Crunch Channels" Mod and use a pot with a value somewhere between 50K and 1M, and have more gain on tap than the Crunch Channel offers without the mud?
I have an ultra 120 plus and i have zero noise problems at either half (60 watts RMS) or full output (120 RMS). what are you keeping your tone levels at? are you plugging into low gain or high gain? is your guitar high gain output pickups? are you using shit cables, or are you using quality cables? are you running any pedals in between your loop? are you running at proper OHMS? are you running stereo or mono? are you checking your ground switch (+, 0, -)? a lot of these things can fuck up your sound.

sorry for all the questions, but instead of looking to mods, it might just be something simple as swapping out a single item.

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Re: The Peavey Ultra Mod Thread

Post by KTB » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:16 am

CR1 / CR2 Diodes were first introduced in Marshalls way back when and were call noiseless distortion. They definitely clip the signal and compress the tone which is why it seems like a noise reduction. Not sure which diodes are used by I personally like germanium in the ones I've done and they are used in lots of stomp-box designs and mods . Their are other ways of clipping and tubes can even be wired as diodes to create a more rounder clip instead of the harsh square wave diodes produce. There are other factors as well that occur beyond the scope of this discussion.

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Re: The Peavey Ultra Mod Thread

Post by JSutter » Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:36 pm

Boy how did I miss the noise gate mod after all these years? That was my biggest issue with Peaveys Ultra series amps. Rolling down the guitars volume resulted in muted and choked tones. I really need to try this on my Rock Master pre amp and if the Special 212 if it has it.
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Re: The Peavey Ultra Mod Thread

Post by KTB » Sat Oct 14, 2017 9:34 am

The Rockmaster preamp already has it. It's not a big change and really shouldn't be called a noise gate because it isn't one. You would have better success with real noise gate in the loop.

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Re: The Peavey Ultra Mod Thread

Post by PVUltra » Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:51 am

What wattage resistors are recommended for the preamp mods?

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Re: The Peavey Ultra Mod Thread

Post by The Guitar » Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:28 am

PVUltra wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:51 am
What wattage resistors are recommended for the preamp mods?
I found this while searching for myself;
viewtopic.php?t=25915

There on the last post, in the quoted boxes, you'll see what you need for the anti-honk mod. I got those parts and can link you if that's a mod you are going to do. Hopefully someone who knows more can chime in and say what wattage you'll need. Best I can do is get a comparison pic between ⅛w, ¼w, and ½w(think I have some) resistors later this afternoon.

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