Vypyr Tips/Tricks/FAQ

mdspeavey · **Joined:** Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:39 am **Posts:** 5

bopcrash wrote:

SchecterShredder wrote:

Do you even OWN a 15? I'm thinking no, because it doesn't even HAVE stompbox effects built in. Therefore, no tubescreamer. (edited by moderator).

Nice response. The 15 watter DOES have the tubscreamer, its in the spot where the looper is on the bigger amps. If you had read my response without skipping the big words you would also realize that I did recognize that the amp is only $99 and that I was amazed at that. However, if the other amps are faulty and will be corrected with the upgrades, I feel that we, even if only spending $99, should have one that works. Any other 15 watt owners with me? Another point that you missed was that I intend to buy one of the larger Vypyrs, but not if Peavey is going to leave us hanging. I will take your advice and return it, not because I'm stupid but because IT DOESN'T WORK RIGHT, even if it was only $99.
I've been playing for forty years and have owned tons of gear including tubescreamers and deluxes. I teach 7th graders and my guess is that you are the 14 year old (still in the 7th grade?) that I probably offended with the chorus remark. Try being a little more subtle instead of using phrases like WTF and calling people stupid.

Also, keep in mind that even with the 15w you CAN tweak the chorus. If it's too strong for you, simply press the effect encoder in, make your adjustments and then save your preset. People haven't been noticing it, but one of the coolest things on the Vypyrs is that when you're in edit mode and let's say that you've adjusted the chorus settings, then you switch to a phase or flanger, and go back to the chorus, it remembers where you had adjusted it. Until you save the preset it remembers those changes so you can actually make adjustments and compare those adjustments to other effects before saving. Also, the same goes for the tubescreamer, press in the encoder and make adjustments as needed.

Unbelievable · **Joined:** Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:24 am **Posts:** 7

RGMetal wrote:

I think the manual has a typo in it though, the stompbox overdrives both have their controls reversed, with Gain as parameter #1, and level as #2, on the actual amp.

I noticed this too but haven't had a chance to post about it. Actually, judging by real pedals, I would say that the manual is right and the amp has the parameters switched. (But who knows, there might be pedals that have the parameters in this order.)

Gunner_X5 · **Joined:** Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:51 pm **Posts:** 2

Does anyone know why they arn't even released in the UK to my knowledge, I've been looking for a 15watt one as a new practise amp for awhile. And Gak and tholman have october listings down, I don't see how there can be such a delay between US and UK shipment

bopcrash · **Joined:** Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:22 am **Posts:** 8

mdspeavey wrote:

bopcrash wrote:

SchecterShredder wrote:

Do you even OWN a 15? I'm thinking no, because it doesn't even HAVE stompbox effects built in. Therefore, no tubescreamer. (edited by moderator).

Nice response. The 15 watter DOES have the tubscreamer, its in the spot where the looper is on the bigger amps. If you had read my response without skipping the big words you would also realize that I did recognize that the amp is only $99 and that I was amazed at that. However, if the other amps are faulty and will be corrected with the upgrades, I feel that we, even if only spending $99, should have one that works. Any other 15 watt owners with me? Another point that you missed was that I intend to buy one of the larger Vypyrs, but not if Peavey is going to leave us hanging. I will take your advice and return it, not because I'm stupid but because IT DOESN'T WORK RIGHT, even if it was only $99.
I've been playing for forty years and have owned tons of gear including tubescreamers and deluxes. I teach 7th graders and my guess is that you are the 14 year old (still in the 7th grade?) that I probably offended with the chorus remark. Try being a little more subtle instead of using phrases like WTF and calling people stupid.

Also, keep in mind that even with the 15w you CAN tweak the chorus. If it's too strong for you, simply press the effect encoder in, make your adjustments and then save your preset. People haven't been noticing it, but one of the coolest things on the Vypyrs is that when you're in edit mode and let's say that you've adjusted the chorus settings, then you switch to a phase or flanger, and go back to the chorus, it remembers where you had adjusted it. Until you save the preset it remembers those changes so you can actually make adjustments and compare those adjustments to other effects before saving. Also, the same goes for the tubescreamer, press in the encoder and make adjustments as needed.

Thanks for the tips, but I already knew how to edit the effects and the tubescreamer. Chorus speed and depth are the only two parameters that can be edited. There is no way to change the mix level. Yes, backing off on both the speed and depth brings down the effect a little and it does sound great with clean sounds like others have pointed out. However, with high gain sounds, its just too much. Same with the phaser, the level of that effect is set.
Regarding the tubescreamer, when you strum lightly or let a chord die, it seems to "step down" in volume, one step at a time, not in a natural way. It mostly happens with the clean amps like the deluxe, gain about 1/2 to 3/4, tubescreamer parameters both at 1/2.
I did also notice that the effect adjustments are remembered as you experiment and go from model to model and that is really nice. Overall, its a great sounding amp - clearly the best little practice amp yet.

Oppenheimer · **Joined:** Fri Sep 26, 2008 9:52 am **Posts:** 5

RGMetal wrote:

I really wish the volume control was more linear. The jump from 0 to 1 on my friend's 75 is obscene, and kills it for bedroom/quiet use, IMO. I hope the 30 I have arriving today isn't so loud/jumpy.

My 30 does this, as well.... does yours? Mine is already painfully loud by the time you get to 2 on the main volume.

RGMetal · **Joined:** Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:44 am **Posts:** 91

Oppenheimer wrote:

My 30 does this, as well.... does yours? Mine is already painfully loud by the time you get to 2 on the main volume.

Yup... Well mine did, but right now it's in transit back for an exchange. Hopefully my 2nd 30 won't hum/squeal. I could've lived with the volume jump if it had worked right.

Unbelievable · **Joined:** Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:24 am **Posts:** 7

I have a 75 and have to keep the volume between 0 and 1, often much closer to 0 than 1. Adjusting it finely can be difficult, and if you're not careful, you can easily move very quickly from "can't quite hear it" to "baby-waking loud". Thought the power sponge would help with this, but it doesn't seem to affect the volume much.

Roger Crimm · **Posted:** Fri Sep 26, 2008 2:09 pm

Try turning down the post gain. Most of the presets have it maxed for some reason. I have found that turning that way down gives you more play on the Power Sponge control, and smooths out the volume transition.

jds22 · **Joined:** Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:05 am **Posts:** 253

Roger Crimm wrote:

Try turning down the post gain. Most of the presets have it maxed for some reason. I have found that turning that way down gives you more play on the Power Sponge control, and smooths out the volume transition.

I'll give this a shot.

Thanks

gtr37 · **Joined:** Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:08 am **Posts:** 24

Roger Crimm wrote:

Try turning down the post gain. Most of the presets have it maxed for some reason. I have found that turning that way down gives you more play on the Power Sponge control, and smooths out the volume transition.

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AWWW Dude ,

Don't be doing that ..lol that is the #1 complaint of the Line6 spidervalve that make people walk away .

As a request I would recommend if possible the new ones that go out and tube models especially if at all possible you pull back the master on the presets ..It will annoy people and possibly cause the amp to feeback and buzz when it shouldn't.

My 2 cents

Oppenheimer · **Joined:** Fri Sep 26, 2008 9:52 am **Posts:** 5

That works great... thanks for the tip. It took a bit of time, but it was worth the effort to set up a preset for each amp type. This way its easy to swap between amps, but keeping the post gain down when you switch. The red channels are way louder than the greens and setting up presets was an easy way to keep the volume from jumping all over the place when you switch models.

fred · **Joined:** Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:20 pm **Posts:** 3

SchecterShredder wrote:

bopcrash wrote:

So are the owners of the 15 watt Vypyr left out of the software upgrade loop? With no midi and no USB, I don't see a way to fix the low level noise, the faulty gate when using a tubescreamer as mentioned by Unbelievable in the post below, or the harsh treble response found on many of the models. I can live with the power up problem by not plugging my guitar in to start but the tubescreamer in front of the deluxe and other models is unusable at lower gain settings or with light picking, which is funny because the manual boosts "try combining a tubescreamer with a clean deluxe". Did anybody at Peavey try the tubescreamer with a deluxe before they approved of the production of these amps? Additionally, has anyone found that the chorus level is just way too much? Come on, with all that processing power, we get no choice for the level or mix of the chorus, as well phaser, etc? By the way, when trying the 75 watt I found both choruses to sound pretty much the same, and both way to much in the mix, with no way to turn it down, or up for that matter. The only controls are speed and depth and it sounds like the level was set by some 14 year-old kid at guitar center.
I basically love many of the sounds of this amp and the headphone out is really nice, one of the best I've heard. I know its only $99 bucks and I'm amazed at that, but really, is Peavey going to do something for the owners of the 15 watters? My only other choice is to return it and wait for the upgraded models, which is such a pain.
When the bugs are fixed, I'll be interested in the larger versions for live use. By the way, I'm a long time Peavey fan and have purchased many amps, guitars and PA gear in the past 30 years or so. I hope Peavey can work this out, I believe they will. But yikes, this is not good. I would really like to hear a response from Peavey about this, as I am sure others would. Thank you.

Do you even OWN a 15? I'm thinking no, because it doesn't even HAVE stompbox effects built in. Therefore, no tubescreamer. (response edited by moderator)

The 15 watt Does have a tubescreamer, but it is located in the effects knob instead of the looper.

Namelessness · **Joined:** Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:41 pm **Posts:** 13

First post by the way.
I haven't got my Vypyr 75 yet (they're not in Australia yet :cry:

, I'm told they're coming early this year :roll:

but I was also told they would come in October '08 before that), but I think I know why the master volume is non-linear. When your signal is overdriven, turning the volume before the OD up or down doesn't make as much difference because the OD compresses it. Because the Vypyr uses transtube, and the powersponge is affecting how the power amp reacts when it overdrives- valve amp emulation there

- the master volume is before the power amp so it is the volume before the OD. That means it doesn't control the volume as much. So turning down the post gain gives you more room with the master volume.

Also, will the Vypyr updates change the amp sound or just fix up problems like not booting, gate not working right, etc.? And will the noise gate, chorus mix, etc. be able to be chaged- through computer or amp- in the future?

Red Rocket · **Joined:** Mon Mar 09, 2009 2:20 pm **Posts:** 11

Roger, first of all I'd like to say that I have a Vypyr and It's by far the best modelling amp I've ever heard.

One big question: will Peavey release a full MIDI specification for the Vypyr? I've been able to change patches with my digitech RP-12 and others have reported being able to control effects by assigning CC switches through trial and error. It'd be nice to be able to have interoperability without having to reverse-engineer the signals :mrgreen:

Note: I don't plan to buy a Sanpera, so any advice you offer won't result in a lost sale :lol:

I appreciate any information or referrals you could offer.

>>== Red Rocket ==>>

Roger Crimm · **Posted:** Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:23 pm

I have no idea if there are plans for that or not. I haven't been able to get any information, other than what has already been posted here.

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